tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post1858003638900381422..comments2024-03-19T03:04:53.896-04:00Comments on paris breakfasts: "Reflections on a Paris Left Behind"Parisbreakfastshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03558314043814894010noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-36211014991963815122013-10-27T05:54:26.651-04:002013-10-27T05:54:26.651-04:00To write about an incident that occurred 5 years a...To write about an incident that occurred 5 years ago in a paper read by millions of people?<br />No, unacceptable.<br />check out a 2012 crime report on Central Park here<br />http://www.thecrimereport.org/news/inside-criminal-justice/2012-09-the-other-side-of-new-yorks-crime-decline<br />"In the month of July (2012) alone, four people died and nine more were wounded in violent incidents in New York recreational areas"Parisbreakfastshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03558314043814894010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-25317550838446793842013-10-26T17:30:28.889-04:002013-10-26T17:30:28.889-04:00Stacy is right. Stacy is right. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-54285120986989502462013-10-24T12:18:11.914-04:002013-10-24T12:18:11.914-04:00Wow--I'm so glad you got up on your soapbox! ...Wow--I'm so glad you got up on your soapbox! I, too, read this Paris rant and found it to be very disquieting and possibly a deterrent to future Paris travelers. It made me apprehensive in certain respects about my planned return to Paris next year, i.e., which areas of the city would I not wish to venture into, much less stay, if I were traveling alone. My first trip to Paris last year made me very much want to return again, and I'm fully convinced I should not let people like Erlanger put a damper on my plans. Hopefully he suffered a lot of negative feedback as a result of his writing this article.JudyMachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04448320253904832677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-62402172159919197602013-10-24T09:58:45.133-04:002013-10-24T09:58:45.133-04:00I love Parc des Buttes-Chaumont and so do my kids....I love Parc des Buttes-Chaumont and so do my kids. We've never encountered battling gangs there, but we've had great barbe à papa and taken in the beautiful views of the city. I love the fact that Parisians of all backgrounds and ages make use of the city's beautiful parks. It makes the city feel alive and less like the ivory prison Erlanger seems to have experienced. And I live near the périphérique and my son goes to school on the périphérique and it in no way resembles the Berlin Wall. I think Erlanger needed the leave the 16th more often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-29085752123573140262013-10-23T23:12:15.266-04:002013-10-23T23:12:15.266-04:00What a mean spirited thing to say about Paris! W...What a mean spirited thing to say about Paris! We need to unite! It is still the loveliest city in the world and where I have the most amazing memories with my 2 daughters. This could cause even more damage with our image and friendship with the French. I always try and be a good ambassador for the USA by being a good tourist. A good tourist doesn’t need to ask a million questions and dress like a bumpkin. My, my, what a rude American comment! You need to ask us all to write to a certain person at the NY Times so we all can counter this! Thanks for letting us know! All big cities have some things you need to be careful of. Thank you and keep going! <br />DianeDianenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-31993329347561012922013-10-23T21:24:53.797-04:002013-10-23T21:24:53.797-04:00Bonjour,
Je ne vis pas à Paris mais je n'ai j...Bonjour,<br /><br />Je ne vis pas à Paris mais je n'ai jamais entendu parler de ce fameux gang non plus !.. Le danger peut résider partout même dans les lieux les plus paisible des campagnes. Le monde est fou !<br />De très jolies photos... J'aime vos illustrations sur les pâtisseries...<br />Gros bisousmartinealisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055152925986659065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-46559609197846525142013-10-23T21:21:35.663-04:002013-10-23T21:21:35.663-04:00this should be a letter to the editor -- complete ...this should be a letter to the editor -- complete with photos! It looks like a lovely park to me -- I think he's just unlucky or has some sort of chip on his shoulder!Jeaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17482528482559445943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-14301464611868308812013-10-23T20:06:16.077-04:002013-10-23T20:06:16.077-04:00I did have to laugh at his description of the &quo...I did have to laugh at his description of the "hideous Tour Montparnasse, which for decades has given skyscrapers a bad name here", as if NY is not full of skyscrapers blocking out the sky. At least in Paris they are much fewer and positioned outside the city centre so it is such a pleasant place to walk. I live in Australia and Sydney is almost as bad as NY with crowded narrow skyscraper city streets and there's more dog poo in my small country town than i ever saw in Paris.....as well as untrained surly young waitresses and gangs of kids high on meth roaming around at night, which doesn't make me love where i live any less but it is ridiculous for this journalist to take such easy and inaccurate potshots. There are some great comments from Parisiennes after his article btw. Thanks for an interesting diversion with this 'rant' Carol! :)Annabellanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-38431736869379424522013-10-23T18:51:38.030-04:002013-10-23T18:51:38.030-04:00I'm glad that you set that straight!
I assumed...I'm glad that you set that straight!<br />I assumed he was telling the truth :)<br />I think that the reason he is coming home is for mental health care.........Nikonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14271472315834976236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-58206356393498551922013-10-23T17:40:44.148-04:002013-10-23T17:40:44.148-04:00What a lovely Park. Bummer about the nay sayer but...What a lovely Park. Bummer about the nay sayer but never fear Carol rides to the rescue. :) I was interested to hear how your perception has changed of Paris living there awhile from romantic to family oriented. but I imagine the romantic seeps thru here and there. :)Cris, Oregon Artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13521351715446057243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-7635495657571190902013-10-23T17:19:29.964-04:002013-10-23T17:19:29.964-04:00How very sad! With all of the beauty and joy in ...How very sad! With all of the beauty and joy in Paris, he has to write something such as this. He must be a very sad Man to see only these things. Good for you and your soapbox!!deedledumplinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17395591087869488426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-65276210640641002492013-10-23T15:44:39.381-04:002013-10-23T15:44:39.381-04:00When I read Steve Erlanger's article, I wonder...When I read Steve Erlanger's article, I wondered if it was somehow a<br />different City from the one my wife Peggy and I had been visiting over the<br />last several decades. We have meandered in and around the Parc<br />Buttes-Chaumonte many times and have yet to see such roving gangs and the<br />neighborhood seems to us to be pretty typical, nice areas. Thanks for<br />taking Steve on!<br />JimJimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-48377853972916415182013-10-23T14:32:03.276-04:002013-10-23T14:32:03.276-04:00I'm baffled! But then, when I first looked at...I'm baffled! But then, when I first looked at the sign for "keep off the grass" I thought it meant you couldn't wear shoes on the grass. I mean, it does show the <b>shoe</b> crossed out, right?Jeanette, Mistress of Longearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815875437992974233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-21085438737026586922013-10-23T14:23:01.897-04:002013-10-23T14:23:01.897-04:00I thought his column was really snarky
good reply/...I thought his column was really snarky<br />good reply/<br />cheers/ LarrtyLarry Walkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-31248184425708977502013-10-23T14:14:02.565-04:002013-10-23T14:14:02.565-04:00Somehow the French understand you need parks. Espe...Somehow the French understand you need parks. Especially for the children.Parisbreakfastshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03558314043814894010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-49746867611916354922013-10-23T14:09:20.352-04:002013-10-23T14:09:20.352-04:00I am glad you wrote about where you live..it is mo...I am glad you wrote about where you live..it is more educational than reading a book...you live in a very pretty and serene area....it is hard to find land for parks in Phoenix and Scottsdale...there is so much greed that there has to be a building of some sort on the properties....the Golden Gate Park is similar to Central Park, but here there is nothing ...of course we have duds running our cities... Aggressive to bring corporations and clog this area more...the air is filthy as we sit down in a valley so it's impossible to get rid of the dirt....we have dust storms that kill...and comes in the homes thru vents...and I am stuck here...<br />LynneLynnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-40068635429023682082013-10-23T14:07:39.308-04:002013-10-23T14:07:39.308-04:00After doing a little digging, it seems this lovely...After doing a little digging, it seems this lovely park was indeed known as a mecca for gang wars and incidents of intercommunal violence. In fact, a young Jewish boy was brutally beaten there in 2008 by a gang. There are plenty of negative reveiws on Tripadvisor about a hotel nearby with writers complaining about gangs, noise and feeling generally unsafe at night. Other than a woman having a gold necklace yanked off her recently (and that can happen anywhere in Paris (as I know all too well) or elsewhere. The good news is that other than the stolen necklace, all this was written 2008 - 2010. So at least at somepoint, the article may contain some truths. Articles such as this one are only one person's opinion; no point in raising your blood pressure! If we didn't love Paris, we wouldn't be reading this blog, right? And one person's opinion is not about to change my mind! Stacey Cartiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-46859988989474869312013-10-23T14:06:30.221-04:002013-10-23T14:06:30.221-04:00I am with you on this Carol ,, I have friends that...I am with you on this Carol ,, I have friends that live in the area of the parc and I have never heard anything about gangs !!! I am sure they would of mentioned it too me at some point .. I was only there for a few hours once , and not a gang in sight!! Of course Paris has it's troubles like all major cities , , We will come over and help you on your soap box :-) Anne in Oxfordshirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14479380647784781207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-40507248654216689482013-10-23T13:09:24.512-04:002013-10-23T13:09:24.512-04:00Thanks for these! I've got a murder in my nex...Thanks for these! I've got a murder in my next book in this park - but in winter. These pictures are so pretty, they're making me feel guilty for my nefarious plot.Yves Feyhttp://yvesfey.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-7863817493305899132013-10-23T10:56:05.949-04:002013-10-23T10:56:05.949-04:00A soap box is exactly what a blog is for. Lovely ...A soap box is exactly what a blog is for. Lovely pictures. I live in Paris vicariously through you. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02392351587934135205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-55178889092748058512013-10-23T10:00:34.121-04:002013-10-23T10:00:34.121-04:00Well stated,Carol! I did read his article as well...Well stated,Carol! I did read his article as well as many of the comments posted in response. Any major city will suffer these problems of pick-pockets and "gangs"--my father and my hubbie were surrounded by a female group of pickers in Prague 15 years ago, I had a most unpleasant exchange with an immigrant boy playing tough kid in front of his gang on the Paris Metro last spring, as they all practiced their pick-pocketing skills in front of everyone. It happens, but that in no way grants license to paint Paris with such a broad brush. Is she perfect? No, but I will continue to adore her despite her shortcomings. x Katiefrench cravingshttp://www.frenchcravings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-83431854429620602082013-10-23T09:56:34.294-04:002013-10-23T09:56:34.294-04:00Brava to you for calling out Steven Erlanger on hi...Brava to you for calling out Steven Erlanger on his NYT article! <br />I read the same article and was equally skeptical of the author's views. Parc Buttes-Chaumont is one of our favorites and we head back there every time we are in Paris. Any city has its warts, but I don't see them in the areas of Paris he was describing. I think he just has a case of sour grapes because he had to leave behind the most lovely city in the world!<br />PeggyPeggynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-14913690966408304142013-10-23T09:52:42.984-04:002013-10-23T09:52:42.984-04:00OFF WITH HIS HEAD,OFF WITH HIS HEAD,Parisbreakfastshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03558314043814894010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-73519017466696928882013-10-23T09:52:01.761-04:002013-10-23T09:52:01.761-04:00not to worry -- he's getting beaucoup flak for...not to worry -- he's getting beaucoup flak for what he wrote!<br />Jane<br /> Jane S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26546687.post-18305528239054816152013-10-23T09:37:06.074-04:002013-10-23T09:37:06.074-04:00Hi Carole, Such a beautiful park, thanks for givin...Hi Carole, Such a beautiful park, thanks for giving us the real inside info on it. The NYT write, meh. What does he know :)Claudia Schmidthttp://www.claudiaspost.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com